The Adam-Dave thing

Here is a copy-paste of my responce to a thread I ran into by accident on
Its about the continued feud between Adam Curry and Dave Winer, and my own feelings about Adam of late.


Having listened to podcasts since november, I remember the good ole days when Dave and Adam did podcasts together, and everything was still fine.

I stopped listening to Dave’s podcast for no other reason than that the audio quality was really getting on my nerves.

Some time later there was an obvious split, with Adam pulling his stuff from Dave’s servers. I heard very little about the feud, and didnt pay it that much mind, but its sad to see it returning to the fore in this manner.

I am not at all suprised they have had this split and that animosity remains, its the most predictable clash of personalities. The geek vs the showman.

Dave is very hard person to like; he is brash, arrogant, and not exactly subtle with his opinion. However, I respect him and his work deeply, and their is no denying his passion in what he does, and his commitment to do ‘the right thing’.

Adam on the other hand is the showman, the extrovert. We could not have wished for a better person to evangalise the format. Adam is very easy to like, because that is exactly wat he is good in, to be the person you want to like, want to hear.
After half a year of DSC however, I have also come to the conclusion that Adam is totally egocentric, also arrogant, and shallow to the extreme.

Personally, I identify with Dave more strongly that with Adam, even though I find Adam more pleasant to listen to.

But like other people in this thread have said, the cracks are showing. I was rather surpised and dissapointed in way when I heard of the Sirius deal. To me its counter-intuitive to the whole ideal of podcasting.
Its this ideal, the very ‘underground’ nature of podcasting that Dave places so much value on, so its not suprising at all to see a complete split on that issue between Dave and Adam, as Adam’s sole focus these days seems to be the business model and the monetisation of the concept.

This is where the crux of the argument is. I think, though the ‘who deserves credit’ discussion is certainly part of it, I dont think its the main problem though.

As far as I had heard, Dave called Adam a ‘sellout’,(this was even before the Sirius deal) and purely from an emotional standpoint, a part of me feels the same way. I feel that podcasting has no place anywhere near the traditional breadcast model. Likewise I cringe everytime I hear of a commercial radio station or channel doing a podcast of their own overproduced, ‘booming radio voice’ crap.

In this last regard, I feel Adam is dropping the ball aswell. When I listened to first test show for Sirius, I couldnt really believe how overproduced it sounded.. talk about your booming radio voice.. this was Adam as his very worst.. and he probably knows it.. but I dont think he can help himself.

On the whole, I am getting increasingly dissapointed with Adam, but I probably wont stop listening, he is like a habbit I would find hard to break.

However, I think I will be subscribing to Dave’s podcast again.. to keep my information intake somehat balanced, dispite I may find him hard to listen to sometimes, in more ways that one.

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